So, today was Musee d’Orsay (hopefully I didn’t f that up too much), L’Atlier de Joel Robuchon for lunch, and then Saint-Chappelle. Of the three, I was most impressed by Saint-Chappelle.
Orsay: lots of stuff, largely impenetrable. I enjoyed a reasonable number of the pieces, both painting and sculpture, but it wasn’t until I was on what felt like somewhat “familiar” territory that I really could appreciate what it all meant. Familiar being Van Gogh, in this particular case. One thing I found, which isn’t a *new* conclusion, is that I really don’t understand what impressionism is about. That is, if I had to guess, I’d say that impressionism, based on nothing but what I’m pulling out of my butt, is a move away from photorealism, towards painting techniques that substitute some sort of abstraction in the representation to communicate how an artist feels about a subject. I have no idea whether that’s the “textbook” definition, to be sure. But basically, as we moved through the museum, and transitioned from older works to newer ones, I found I had a very hard time telling the difference between certain types of impressionism, and bad technique.
Here’s where I’m going to get tripped up, because I don’t know who speciically belongs to which schools, or what’s considered what, so take this all with a grain of salt. When I look at something like a Renoir, there’s a softness, and an… airy sort of haze to some of his portraits that feel ethereal – the focus is on very specific details, and because other things have some detail abstracted, the viewer gets a sense of what is and is not important – the “feel” of the painting is intact, even though the details are not, yet there is enough detail for a viewer to understand the painting as a whole.
Monet seems to have pulled even further away from reality, and uses the color, as well as the brushwork, to create a sense of visual emotion that surpasses photorealism – the specific painting that sticks out in my mind is a bluish silhouette of Parliament against a pinkish sky.
Still, none of this really “came together” for me, until Van Gogh. There were two specific Van Gogh self-portraits on display – one with a maybe yellow-green background, with very distinct blue streaks on his face, and one with a blue swirly background. Like how I use the technical terms? Bleah. Still, the “best” painting for me was the blue swirly self-portrait. In that, the mix of realism, with such expressiveness in the brushstrokes, and the stylized, almost symbolic patterning in the background is so evocative that it felt like the culmination of what all the works I’d seen previously had been hinting at was possible. Maybe I’m reading too much into it, I don’t know. What I do know is that two rooms later, there was a Cezanne that to me just looked unfinished, and a pair of crowd scenes by, I believe Toulouse-Latrec that I literally couldn’t distinguish from the drawings of someone who has no idea how to draw or paint.
I suppose that’s the common complaint about modern art, but there you go.
L’Atlier: Ei-Nyung had the menu, so I’ll let her describe that. The basic structure for those who might not be familiar with the style of restaurant (as I was not), is that it’s essentially a bar, somewhat like a sushi bar, and there are a number of different small plate dishes, as well as some “larger” dishes, that are more geared towards being a main course.
Since Ei-Nyung had splurged on the menu, which ran E98, even at lunch, I figured I’d go for something… cheaper. still not cheap, mind you, as it ended up running about $56 for the dishes I had, but what are you gonna do? It’s like, #25 in the world, right? I had L’Aubergine, or as we yanks know it, the eggplant. The dish consisted of a sprig of thyme, perched atop a stack of grilled zucchini, grilled eggplant, a slice of grilled tomato, and a slice of fresh mozzarella. There was, I believe, a comma-shaped dollop of basil sauce at the base. That is, I believe it was basil – it definitely was there. The little stack of vegetables and cheese was absolutely spectacular. Something about the seasoning, and the grilling of the components was spot-on, and the balance of flavors was just perfect.
Next up was a quail dish. There was a small, licorice-y salad of greens, a multi-ingredient mashed potato side, and the quail – split up into two leg pieces (leg & thigh), and two breast pieces, which looked like they were stuffed with some of the innards from the bird. Honestly, I couldn’t tell you what the bird was stuffed with, but that’s what it seemed like. I figured I’d get the quail becuase a.) I couldn’t read the vast majority of the menu, and at that point, we’d asked so many questions, I didn’t want to press much further, and b.) we’d recently had quail at Chez Panisse, so I figured why not compare? As it turns out, the quail had been the weak point in the dinner at Chez Panisse, and the quail at L’Atlier was far superior. Crispy skin, done to perfection, not dry or greasy in the least, and in a small amount of perfectly seasoned jus. A piece of the breast meat, with the stuffing, a leaf or two from the salad, and the potato fit on a fork nicely, and all the flavors complemented each other perfectly, with the bitter brightness of the greens offsetting the richness of the meat & potato.
For dessert, I had L’Orange. Yeah – this was an odd thing. Good, but odd – and more challenging than uniformly “delicious,” I think – perhaps a more sophisticated palette would find it uniformly enjoyable, but to me, it was far more academically “neat” than out-and-out to-die-for-delicious. Still, a totally unique experience, and worth every moment. Basically, the dish consisted of a canape of orange sherbet set atop slices of mandarin orange (the slices were cut, not peeeled), which sat in a pool of orange juice. On top was what appeared to be a very thin, pressed piece of the caramelized rind. I was wrong about the rind – though it looked as though that must have been what it was, it was a very thin layer of orange-flavored sugar – though that doesn’t really describe it accurately, because it was far more savory than sweet. It was like they had pulled all the savory components of the flavor of an orange, isolated them from the sweetness, and then turned that into a thin layer of completely un-sweet sugar.
Very strange. Even weirder was that the orange sherbet had a strong clove (and possibly nutmeg) flavor that again accentuated the savory aspect of the orange. This had more of a hint of sweetness than the “rind,” and was a little more accessible. Turns out that the orange slices were also sitting in what appeared to be a second orange sherbet, which was even sweeter, but again, was paired with some sort of spice that accentuated something different. I can’t even really describe it, except that it tasted like a halfway point between the clove/orange sherbet and what you’d normally expect. The orange itself was exactly what I’d have expected, as was the orange juice, but in comparison/contrast/complementing the other flavors, what you ended up with was that each mouthful felt like a different perspective.
I always think that it’s weird on the Japanese Iron Chef when you’d get someone saying something ridiculous like this, but basically, it was as though you’d put an orange on a pedestal in a darkened room, shone a spotlight on it, and taken a variety of pictures from different angles. Each mouthful was like eating one of those pictures – each slightly different, with a slightly different take on the flavor. Maybe it’s like you got a bunch of impressionists all painting the same orange, and then you’ve eaten all their paintings and gotten a bunch of different perspectives on the same subject matter. (Ei-Nyung suggested that something like that (a variety of impressionists painting the same subject) would be really illuminating in a museum like the Orsay.)
Anyway – I really enjoyed L’Atlier, but I do confess that I wasn’t prepared to really sit down and confront that kind of food for lunch. It was basically more than I could really “understand” outside of dinner. Dinner ended up being far more pedestrian – we got some gnocchi, lardon, tomatoes, and an eggplant sauce, and cooked it all up at the apartment. Delicious, and way, way cheaper.
Sainte-Chappelle: whoa. For all the idiotic panhandling they’ve set up at the Notre Dame, S-C was done right. The information stuff, and the “shop” and what have you were downstairs, in the much less impressive but still cool lower area, and the upstairs was left relatively untouched. And holy crap, it’s astonishing. Too much, perhaps. While the interior of the building is relatively straightforward, and the sculptures of the apostles were neat, it all pales in comparison to the stained glass. Yeah, this is useless without pictures, as I’m at a loss to describe it to anyone who hasn’t seen it already. It’s very “noisy” and frankly, though it’s appearently quite narrative, the stories are very, very hard to make out because the space between the narrative panels is taken up by repetitive colored patterns, and the visual density of it all makes it completely and totally overwhelming.
Still, it’s one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen, frankly, and astonishing that apparently, 2/3rds of the stained glass is original. Yeah, Notre Dame’s gigantic, and on the exterior, far more elaborate, but if that took 200 years to build, it must have been a Herculean effort to put up S-C in a mere six years. Wow. We have 4 day museum passes – I’m hoping that we get a really bright day, so we can go back and check it out in its full glory. It was a little dim by the time we got to the place, and cloudy, so it wasn’t as intense as it probably might have been.
Anyway – after all that, we came back to the apartment, and sat around. I’m definitely getting trip fatigue, and can walk less and less each passing day. I miss my dog, and my house, and my friends. Still having a ball, but yeah, whoo – tiring.
Awesome! You went!
After all my yapping, I was afraid you’d get there and hate it.
“I’d say that impressionism, based on nothing … is a move away from photorealism, towards painting techniques that substitute some sort of abstraction in the representation to communicate how an artist feels about a subject.”
That’s why they call it “Impressionism”! 🙂
There’s not much I can add to this description: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressionism
It’s a pretty good overview.
I would add, and I guess it’s too late now that you already went to the Musee D’Orsay, but the “start” of the whole movement is in there:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Luncheon_on_the_Grass
Picture: tinyurl.com/lqml8
That was when all these guys got together and really coallesced to say “FUCK YOU ACADEMIE!” and did their own thing.
All the guys you mentioned are Impressionists. I don’t believe there are any well established, contemporary “schools” that they are subcategorized into. Van Gogh is more of a post-Impressionist, but that was later.
Each of them simply had different approaches to “solving” the same problems.
The later ones are product of more and more experimentation with their abilities to “convey” the image without adhering to reality exactly (like a late Monet).
All these guys, in their early work, were pretty realistic, but over time, they just getting more bold with the way they represented reality (i.e., light and forms).
I don’t know what Cezanne your referring to specifically, but his later works are almost Cubist in their abstraction. A few brush strokes would represent an orange for example. He was getting to fundamental structures, and not just light.
Or maybe it was unfinished. 🙂
In any case, I tend to think of these experimentations, which are not always successful, as sort of the product of people who are masters of a particular discipline and are looking at ways to keep themseleves interested.
It’s like when you beat a game, but it’s one where you don’t get booted. So, you kind of screw around trying shit out. Like the guys in Halo who figure out how to get a Warthog on buildings.
Impressionists, IMO, were at a time when artists finally nailed representation. Suddenly, that wasn’t a puzzle anymore. So now what? They turned to, what exactly are they representing in their work, and what are other ways of conveying that image. What exactly were they _seeing_? How could those ideas be painted?
When the “puzzle” of Impressionism was licked, there was another, “what are we doing?” What exactly were they _feeling_ when they saw things? That lead to post-Impressionists like Cezanne and Van Gogh, who I think, were trying to convey something more substantive, subject-wise, through their works.
“I believe Toulouse-Latrec that I literally couldn’t distinguish from the drawings of someone who has no idea how to draw or paint.
I suppose that’s the common complaint about modern art, but there you go.”
It is. Whenever I hear people complaining about Picasso (or something similar) as doing “stuff I could do”, I always have to point out that he was producing stuff as a 10-12 year old that the majority of adult artists can’t do. He was 15 when he did this and this was more “experimental” (nothing people hadn’t done, but it was less realistic for him):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Autoportrait_mal_coiffe.jpg
I think the same is with Toulouse-Latrec. If the picture looked sloppy, it’s sloppiness from a guy who could blow you away if he wanted to. But, for whatever reason it looks the way it does. It’s more of a throw away idea, but it reveals how he works or what he was thinking about in a way that a finalized piece might not.
I’m a big fan of the Impressionists and agree with your assessment of the airy, ethereal quality of them.
I always have a hard time when Modern Art museums want to put Van Gogh in a room with Chagall and Matisse because there seems to be such a disparity between the two styles that it’s almost jarring; like I’m being pulld from one reality to another. I think that’s why I disliked MoMA in NYC so much. One minute I was looking at Cezanne and Van Gogh and then next I was standing next to a canvas painted entirely in electric blue paint.
I like the concept of having all the Impressionists get together and paint their version of one scene/object. Imagine what we’d have to devour!
re: Toulouse-Latrec & the standard modern art complaint – I understand that that’s what the background is, and when it’s presented as a spectrum of work, with some context, it’s much easier to digest – not only that, but to have an explanation for *why* something is painted in the way that it is. That’s what I really appreciated about the National Gallery – it had descriptions that answered the layman’s questions.
One of the other weird speculations that the museum visit triggered, again, based on a complete void of information, was that pointillism felt to me like someone saying, “why do we represent realism with brushstrokes?” Just because photorealism had been achieved by that technique didn’t necessarily make it the authoritative means by which one represents reality. Ei-Nyung brought up the comparison with polygons and videogames, which rings just as true.
Sure, there are mathematical reasons why polys became the dominant means of expression in computer-generated 3-D, but once the photorealistic still image thing has been “licked,” at what point do we start seeing graphics generated by simulation of smaller systems? Maybe we start seeing graphics geneated by cellular simulations, which are then displayed by voxels, or what have you.
Of course, part of the question is then what are you showing to the *viewer*, not just by what mechanism are you creating the content? I think that’s one of the things that I love about games like Rez – it’s not a representation of reality by any stretch – but it’s a game whose interactivity evokes a particular feeling – or impression.
And just to be clear, my main issue, I think, is the organization and context of the museum, not necessarily the art itself. So far, the museum that has had the most … inaccessible organization was the Tate Modern, which was sad, because I was really interested in the art there, I just didn’t feel like I was being given the tools to understand it.
Told you so about Saint Chapelle. 🙂
My biggest issue with most museums is that they seem to actively keep “the knowledge” away from their patrons. They don’t want people to know what is going on. It empowers them.
There’s a pretty active discourse on the power of the museum and how fucked up the whole dynamic is between the viewer and the establishment. The opaqueness of the viewing experience and the work is part of that.
The Tate Modern is both cool and awful at the same time.
It’s a cool space, but it’s really fucked up when it comes to bridging the gap between the viewer and the works. It’s like the museum said, “don’t know the artist? Fuck you. We don’t care.”
Honestly, in places like the Tate Modern, I zip through them pretty quick. Contemporary art isn’t so much about aesthetics, so you don’t just sit there and appreciate the “beauty” of it. It’s not about design most of the time.
Rather, it’s about some discourse that the artist is a part of. If you don’t know what it is, you’re wasting your time. Sometimes you can puzzle some meaning out, but with 90% of things these days, “Untitled”, the audience is screwed.
I just feel bad for people that I see trying to puzzle these things out and get pissed that museums send these people up the river without any guidance. People feel guilty about not knowing. They don’t like to feel ignorant. But the museum doesn’t care. Otherwise, there’d be explanations for people to read, when there usually isn’t.
Contemporary art museums should be empty if there was any justice in this world.
I’m going to keep ranting.
One of my big pet peeves is the Whitney Biennial, which draws shitloads of people WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY’RE LOOKING AT.
Not that I know either most of the time, but I know that I don’t know and that I’m not going to figure it out, so I move on. But I see these tourists staring blankly at things completely baffled, and with good reason. How the fuck should the know what is going on?
But despite this, it’s packed every time. And I listen to people talking about the art. Cool hipsters that _look_ like they know what they’re looking at, but they don’t. The art students don’t know either.
Not that nobody does or that there’s anything wrong with the art, but if they made you take a quiz before they let you in, and only people that passed got in, then the place would be almost empty.
These museums don’t bother to educate their visitors though. They should. It would be great if the gallery was mobbed with knowledgeable visitors.